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	<title>Comments on: The 99th Percentile &#8220;Good Teacher&#8221; Myth</title>
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		<title>By: Karl Schellscheidt</title>
		<link>http://blog.eprep.com/2006/08/14/the-99th-percentilegood-teacher-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Schellscheidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments are always welcome, Phil.  Best of luck to you too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments are always welcome, Phil.  Best of luck to you too.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.eprep.com/2006/08/14/the-99th-percentilegood-teacher-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-593</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Karl,

I have registered for and taken the SAT alongside my students frequently in the past.  I usually get a 2400, and while I find the testing makes me sharper, the test is just too easy for me now.  As such, I doubt that I will continue to take it.

By the way, Stanley Kaplan never took the SATs.

Great communicating with you.

Best of luck.

Phil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Karl,</p>
<p>I have registered for and taken the SAT alongside my students frequently in the past.  I usually get a 2400, and while I find the testing makes me sharper, the test is just too easy for me now.  As such, I doubt that I will continue to take it.</p>
<p>By the way, Stanley Kaplan never took the SATs.</p>
<p>Great communicating with you.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Schellscheidt</title>
		<link>http://blog.eprep.com/2006/08/14/the-99th-percentilegood-teacher-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Schellscheidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

I agree with your comment.  Content mastery is critical.

Quick question: Do you actually register for and take the SAT alongside your students?  Just curious.

Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>I agree with your comment.  Content mastery is critical.</p>
<p>Quick question: Do you actually register for and take the SAT alongside your students?  Just curious.</p>
<p>Karl</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.eprep.com/2006/08/14/the-99th-percentilegood-teacher-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Karl,

Both teaching ability and test mastery are essential.  I&#039;m the forty-two-year-old guy who routinely takes the test alongside his students, which most find comforting.  If I couldn&#039;t master the test myself then I couldn&#039;t possibly pass that on to my students.  But I do strongly agree that a perfect score does not make you a perfect tutor.  The ability to teach is a gift, and not all have it.  To find the perfect tutor, ask around and plan ahead.  I&#039;m almost fully booked for next year already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Karl,</p>
<p>Both teaching ability and test mastery are essential.  I&#8217;m the forty-two-year-old guy who routinely takes the test alongside his students, which most find comforting.  If I couldn&#8217;t master the test myself then I couldn&#8217;t possibly pass that on to my students.  But I do strongly agree that a perfect score does not make you a perfect tutor.  The ability to teach is a gift, and not all have it.  To find the perfect tutor, ask around and plan ahead.  I&#8217;m almost fully booked for next year already.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
		<link>http://blog.eprep.com/2006/08/14/the-99th-percentilegood-teacher-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting site. I like what you&#039;re doing here.

Yes, you&#039;re 100% right about what you say. It&#039;s just marketing. Unfortunately, many people (but not all!) think that their kids should be taught by high-scorers from the best schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting site. I like what you&#8217;re doing here.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re 100% right about what you say. It&#8217;s just marketing. Unfortunately, many people (but not all!) think that their kids should be taught by high-scorers from the best schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the reasoning in your last comment, Karl.  I have been a private tutor for years and I have never been asked what my scores were when I took the SAT years ago.  I think what really sells parents is what they hear from others through word of mouth.  The fact that you went to a great college does not hurt.  In fact, it may make the SAT score question somewhat redundant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the reasoning in your last comment, Karl.  I have been a private tutor for years and I have never been asked what my scores were when I took the SAT years ago.  I think what really sells parents is what they hear from others through word of mouth.  The fact that you went to a great college does not hurt.  In fact, it may make the SAT score question somewhat redundant.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://blog.eprep.com/2006/08/14/the-99th-percentilegood-teacher-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Your comment is interesting and, for me, very thought provoking.  I agree that in some ways it would be best to have an experienced and capable teacher who scored well when he/she took the test.  There is something I want you to consider, however.

It involves the notion that test-taking savvy can be transferred from one person to another (i.e., it can be taught and learned).  Just yesterday I was working with a soon-to-be senior who got a number 14 (out of 16) wrong.  The problem involved increasing a price by 10% and then decreasing it by 25%.  The student simply added 10, subtracted 25, and concluded that the new price was 85% of the original price. (His answer was (C), the most popular wrong answer.)  I first explained the math behind the solution.  I then tried to help him become a savvier test-taker.

I reminded him that the problems within a given section tend to be ordered from easiest to hardest.  He nodded in acknowledgement.  I then asked him whether he thought a number 14 (again out of 16) would likely be easy, medium or hard.  Hard.  I then asked him whether adding 10 and subtracting 25 seemed hard.  No (with a smile).  I then highlighted that savvy test-takers are always aware of where they are in a test.  If your solution to a number 14 is too simple, it is wrong.  Go back and try to find the catch.  If you can&#039;t, leave it blank.  Don&#039;t go with the simple answer; it will be wrong.

My point is this: If I can teach students to become more savvy test-takers, what is to stop a twenty-something-year old, for example, from (i) learning the ins and outs of a given standardized test and then (ii) turning around and helping teenagers prepare for the same test?

Put another way, &quot;when&quot; my child&#039;s tutor became savvy with regard to test-taking is, to me, less important than &quot;whether&quot; the tutor can instill in my child the traits of a savvy test-taker.

The SAT I took back in 1985 is much, much different than the one currently administered.  I have never felt the need to take the current test because I don&#039;t think it is important.  (I also think that the presence of a thirty-eight-year-old test-taker would distract and unnerve more that a few kids who probably need every advantage they can get.)

I agree with your sentiment that parents want proof of results.  I respectfully argue, however, that they are more interested in the tutor&#039;s results as a tutor than in his/her results as a test-taker.

Some humble advice for you regarding your new business: Just do a good job with every client and your business with grow exponentially by word of mouth.

Thanks again for your comment and kind words about ePrep.  Good luck and I hope to hear from you again soon.

Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Your comment is interesting and, for me, very thought provoking.  I agree that in some ways it would be best to have an experienced and capable teacher who scored well when he/she took the test.  There is something I want you to consider, however.</p>
<p>It involves the notion that test-taking savvy can be transferred from one person to another (i.e., it can be taught and learned).  Just yesterday I was working with a soon-to-be senior who got a number 14 (out of 16) wrong.  The problem involved increasing a price by 10% and then decreasing it by 25%.  The student simply added 10, subtracted 25, and concluded that the new price was 85% of the original price. (His answer was (C), the most popular wrong answer.)  I first explained the math behind the solution.  I then tried to help him become a savvier test-taker.</p>
<p>I reminded him that the problems within a given section tend to be ordered from easiest to hardest.  He nodded in acknowledgement.  I then asked him whether he thought a number 14 (again out of 16) would likely be easy, medium or hard.  Hard.  I then asked him whether adding 10 and subtracting 25 seemed hard.  No (with a smile).  I then highlighted that savvy test-takers are always aware of where they are in a test.  If your solution to a number 14 is too simple, it is wrong.  Go back and try to find the catch.  If you can&#8217;t, leave it blank.  Don&#8217;t go with the simple answer; it will be wrong.</p>
<p>My point is this: If I can teach students to become more savvy test-takers, what is to stop a twenty-something-year old, for example, from (i) learning the ins and outs of a given standardized test and then (ii) turning around and helping teenagers prepare for the same test?</p>
<p>Put another way, &#8220;when&#8221; my child&#8217;s tutor became savvy with regard to test-taking is, to me, less important than &#8220;whether&#8221; the tutor can instill in my child the traits of a savvy test-taker.</p>
<p>The SAT I took back in 1985 is much, much different than the one currently administered.  I have never felt the need to take the current test because I don&#8217;t think it is important.  (I also think that the presence of a thirty-eight-year-old test-taker would distract and unnerve more that a few kids who probably need every advantage they can get.)</p>
<p>I agree with your sentiment that parents want proof of results.  I respectfully argue, however, that they are more interested in the tutor&#8217;s results as a tutor than in his/her results as a test-taker.</p>
<p>Some humble advice for you regarding your new business: Just do a good job with every client and your business with grow exponentially by word of mouth.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your comment and kind words about ePrep.  Good luck and I hope to hear from you again soon.</p>
<p>Karl</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be best of all to have an experienced and capable teacher who has scored well on the standardized test you&#039;re preparing to take? I know that&#039;s a rare combination; how many teachers have very high test scores? I agree that experience teaching is very important, but a certain amount of test-taking savvy would be proof, wouldn&#039;t it, that you could get results by working with someone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be best of all to have an experienced and capable teacher who has scored well on the standardized test you&#8217;re preparing to take? I know that&#8217;s a rare combination; how many teachers have very high test scores? I agree that experience teaching is very important, but a certain amount of test-taking savvy would be proof, wouldn&#8217;t it, that you could get results by working with someone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trev,

Thanks for the comment.  Glad to hear that you have had such huge successes.  Keep up the good work.  I agree that it is pretty awesome when students come back to thank you years later.  Just recently, a student I got to know while teaching at The Hun School of Princeton tracked me down.  He graduated from Princeton University a couple of years ago and is currently attending business school at Stanford University.  (Rock on Eugene!)  It was great to hear from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trev,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  Glad to hear that you have had such huge successes.  Keep up the good work.  I agree that it is pretty awesome when students come back to thank you years later.  Just recently, a student I got to know while teaching at The Hun School of Princeton tracked me down.  He graduated from Princeton University a couple of years ago and is currently attending business school at Stanford University.  (Rock on Eugene!)  It was great to hear from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Trev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for explaining that...I&#039;ve been a teacher for over 10 years and I think I&#039;m a darned good one. I certainly try. I never even broke a thousand on the SAT because I lacked the study skills and confidence at the time. Yet, I&#039;ve had students who got into MIT, Harvard, Columbia, NYU, you name it. A few of them have actually come back and thanked me.

This is a great web site. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for explaining that&#8230;I&#8217;ve been a teacher for over 10 years and I think I&#8217;m a darned good one. I certainly try. I never even broke a thousand on the SAT because I lacked the study skills and confidence at the time. Yet, I&#8217;ve had students who got into MIT, Harvard, Columbia, NYU, you name it. A few of them have actually come back and thanked me.</p>
<p>This is a great web site. Thanks!</p>
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